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Blackberry Navaho® Bigandearly®

The first blackberry that ripens in mid-summer

Blackberry Navaho® Bigandearly®
 
 
 

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Product information "Blackberry Navaho® Bigandearly®"

Thorns: No thorns
Maturity: The harvest season begins in early July and is finished at the end of July to the beginning of August; course Bigandearly® blackberries must be fully ripe and come off the plant well for them to really taste good
Fruits: Very large, nicely shaped, almost twice as large as the Original Lubera, beautifully glossy; despite the size and good strength of the fruit it literally melts on the tongue; including torus, which is sometimes quite hard and resistant in some other large-fruited varieties
Growth: Not a vigorous variety, medium strong growth, very upright, suitable for upright training on stake or framework (like raspberries); very robust, slightly susceptible to downy mildew

What are Navaho blackberries?
-Upright growing
-Thornless
-Good tasting and aromatic
-Robust

The new Navaho summer blackberries have all of the known characteristics - and they now also finally mature in the season when blackberries definitely taste the best: in midsummer!
 
  • Flowering Period May
  • Ripeness/Harvest Period July
  • Final height 2m to 3m
  • Final width 60cm to 80cm
  • Available February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December
  • Plant Type deciduous
  • Sweetness sweet
  • Use as a hedge, as a specimen plant
  • Hardiness hardy
  • Soil slightly alkaline, neutral, slightly acidic
  • Location full sun
  • Flower Colour white
  • Leaf Colour green
  • Lubera Breeding This plant was bred by Lubera in Switzerland and placed on the market after extensive testing at our facilities in Buchs (CH) and Bad Zwischenahn (D). In 20 years of work, Lubera's founder and breeder Markus Kobelt has bred more than 80 of his own new varieties for the home garden; they all have the goal of providing you, our customers, with more experience and flavour, easier growing and more resistant, more robust varieties.

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Oct 26, 2017

Thin, short canes? (D. Jones)

Hi My bigandearly blackberry produced a new few canes in lateJuly/Aug this year after a heavy crop, but the new canes were short-3feet, pencil thin and eventually broke off. Also the leaves didn't look healthy and were sparse. What causes this as it has never happened before? I had bought the plant about 6 years ago. p.s some new shoots are appearing now at the plant's base, so it is still alive. Thanks for any suggestions.

 
Nov 21, 2017

Plant nutrition is the answer! (Tom)

Sounds like your soil is exhausted of goodness and not disease. Enrich the soil and the next canes should not be so whip like and weak. That's the problem with blackberries they soon deplete their surroundings after a couple of years.

Nov 22, 2017

Thin, short canes? (Sonja Dreher)

Hello,
what Tom said is absolutely true. You said this appeared after a heavy crop., the Blackberry put maximum strenght in production.
So give it a good layer of compost now and Fertilizer in April, than it will be doing well again.

kind regards
your Lubera Team

Oct 18, 2017

Best Lubera blackberry? (Geena)

Which of the blackberries sold here by Lubera is the best allround for the gardener and I'm interested to know which one is the most sold in Europe by Lubera and successful? Before I buy a fruit plant I like to get feedback from the nursery about plant traits. My thornless blackberry Black Satin needs replacing as it it over 15 years. Thankyou.

 
Aug 22, 2017

Plant testing of blackberry cultivars! (RHS)

The RHS has extensively tested many blackberry cultivars both old/new over the past few years and found blackberry Navaho to be very healthy. The RHS always welcomes the testing of new blackberry cultivars and if Lubera were to submit samples of blackberries Navaho Summerlong and Bigandearly they would be formally trialled and evaluated with pleasure by contacting us direct. Plant trials are currently being done. Thankyou. https://www.rhs.org.uk/about-the-rhs/contact-us Warmest Regards RHS

 
Sep 17, 2017

My Blackberry Big & Early plant trial! (Steve D)

I did a recorded test plot of blackberry Navaho Big & Early over this summer 2017. Actually I've been growing this plant for over 5 years, but wanted some data on it for myself. My established plants A & B had been previously planted in a deep trench of heavy builder's yard gravel like soil 1 metre apart which was replenished seasonally with nutrients. They both thrived in a reasonably sunny location of a minimum of 5 to 6 full hours of full sunlight each day and each tied to a stout stake.


Last year plant A put out 2 strong canes and plant B gave 6 canes which were reduced to 4 and these canes were tipped to 1.7 metre in late Winter of 2016.
My estimates for this plant is that it has a moderate chill hour need of 650 to 700 hours to achieve bud break in spring, similar to Blackberry Loch Ness which needs 700 hours.




The first full flowering in both was May 23rd 2017 and fruits were ready to be picked in both by July 22nd giving 9 weeks(63 days) from first flower to first ripe picking. The season of picking was finished by Sept 15th with most of the quality blackberries being picked by the end of August. Approximately 30 berries in each were discarded(9%approx of each yield) due to various reasons, primarily being that were pollinated too late in August to have any chance of ripening later.







Plant A produced 304 blackberries from its two canes, total weight 2.0455 Kg(4.5 pounds) average berry size 6.72g.






Plant B from its four canes produced 320 blackberries of total weight 1.82kg(4 pounds), average berry size 5.68g.




My evaluation is 2 or 3 canes are optimum for yield and berry quality/size. Neither plant in my test showed disease except some slight chlorosis mid spring. These results confirm previous thoughts of growing Navaho type plants in the U.K, that it is well suited to the conditions.

Aug 20, 2017

Pruning (Samantha Greenway)

I watched the interesting video which shows Mr Kobelt giving information how to prune Navaho(original?), but the Bigandearly is not an arching plant with long canes as in the video. The lateral shoots never appear to grow too long which need pruning back in my plant and the canes grow compactly upright/stout to 7 to 8 feet and stop, so I just tip to 6 feet in late Feb. Am I pruning Bigandearly correctly? Thanks for any feedback

 
Aug 24, 2017

Pruning (Sonja Dreher)

Hello,
if Bigandearly is not getting so high, but on the other way looks healthy, there is no need to worry. It is absolutely ok, not to prune so strong then.

kind regrads
Sonja
Lubera Team

Aug 16, 2017

Great blackberry plant! (B. Irwin)

I'm not one of those people 'who has green fingers' as they say, in fact most fruit plants I'd bought usually died within a year, most likely due to my neglect or bad weather conditions, but that said I've had some great success with this blackberry Bigandearly. I pick about 5 pounds of huge blackberries every summer with minimal effort. All I do is water it, give it a plant feed occasionally in spring time/early summer and it is still going strong. My question is how long will this plant continue for? Hopefully for some years yet! Thanks.

 
Aug 19, 2017

Planting longevity (Mags)

15 to 20 years, longer if soil is replenished seasonally and plant remains virus free from accumulated pests such as dagger nematodes etc

Aug 10, 2017

Trial data Navaho blackberries! (Harry W)

Here is some data I gathered from my blackberry plant trials with Lubera blackberries. Both were quick to establish in the garden. 2012 I planted both Navaho BigandEarly and Summerlong. A 'baby' crop was seen that year of about 0.5 kg in both plants. 2013 Bigandearly 1.5 kg; Summerlong 2.0 kg 2014 Bigandearly 1.8 kg; Summerlong 3.0 kg 2015 Bigandearly 2.25 kg; Summerlong 3.5kg

 
Aug 11, 2017

Yield Data (Toni Li)

Thanks for your data. My blackberry plant Loch Ness puts out good yields from 2kg to as much as 5kg each year, if the conditions are favorable and fruit gets the sun to ripen. My other plant Navaho original is similar to Loch Ness both its yield/season, but is far more vigorous and healthier. Loch Ness is slow to establish and does not produce many canes like Navaho does. A lot of the fruit never ripens where I live as both these blackberries are late season types. These earlier Navaho blackberries look intriguing!

Aug 13, 2017

Blackberry amount (Sue)

I pick blackberries for baking. Last year I gathered 250 berries from this variety over 6 weeks and the total weight was 1.75kg, so the berry size average was 7g.

Jul 11, 2017

Blackberry yield in kg? (Mick)

Hello Lubera I'm thinking of purchasing a Navaho BigandEarly and I want to learn how much fruit does one plant produce when established? I already grow blackberry Helen which gives about 3kg of nice fruit early season and want to try another variety. I've read the comments based in the U.K etc, but would like to know how this plant performed in Lubera's Switzerland/Germany nursery conditions? Looking forward to your answer. Thankyou

 
Jul 25, 2017

"Blackberry Navaho® Bigandearly®"? (Sonja Dreher)

Hello,
the growing conditions of Uk do not differ so much to those in Germany and Switzerland.
Bigandearly has a crop of 4 kg approximately, if the surroundings/ growing conditions are good for it.

kind regards
your Lubera Team

Aug 4, 2017

Blackberry plant performance (Kenneth)

Hi,
I grow this plant too. Here's what I know as I wrote it down in my gardening journal which compares fruit plants I had trialled. Last year I picked 350 berries from 4 canes. The berry weight mostly ranged from 6 grams to a very large 9 grams with a few blackberries actually reaching 10g in size. My first picking time was July 20th and ended early Sept when the quality declined and the very small hard/green late pollinated blackberries (50 or so) probably would not have ripened due to lack of heat etc, so I discarded them. I picked 2.275 kg(5 pounds) in total with very little effort, just watering and giving plant feed now and then. This variety appears to have a good yield potential of at least 2 to 3 kg maybe higher in the U.K, if conditions are favourable and you get the sun of course. This year my BigandEarly has produced even more juicy blackberries. I've picked about a third of them(1kg) from mid July, so looking good for a final crop of 3kg weather permitting this August. My kids love eating them!

Aug 6, 2017

Growing blackberry etc! (J. T)

Hello
I never had much luck with fruit plants, but with this early Navaho blackberry I did with very little effort. I bought it in a daily newspaper gardening section many years ago and it's still going strong. I grow this Navaho Bigandearly in a 30 litre container and pick 2 kg a year on average. It puts out hundreds of big fruits consistently every year. Maybe I'd get more kg, if I had planted in the garden and its roots spread out wider, but I don't have much space, so this compact growth pattern suits me.

Aug 19, 2017

Yield (Mags)

Expect a good 2 to 3kg from an established plant, but more if pruning is done early Spring time to stimulate lateral growth where flowers form readily .

Jul 8, 2017

Best Navaho type? (Ruth)

Hi, there's three Navaho blackberries to choose from here and I wondered which one is the best plant of the group for the home garden in Lubera's view as I can't decide? Much appreciated. Thankyou.

 
Jul 24, 2017

Best Navaho? (Phil T)

I will add my experience and say without a doubt Navaho BigandEarly is the best Navaho type as well as being the best garden blackberry you will ever grow. Superb plant and all the good reports are very true. I've grown quite a few blackberries over the years some good and some bad, but I just grow this one now. It is far superior to any I've seen even the more modern ones like Natchez or Reuben.

May 30, 2017

Early ripening??? (Aaron)

I've been growing both Navaho plants: BigandEarly & Summerlong for about 5 years. The Summerlong is true to its Lubera description but the BigandEarly not. Both these plants are planted in sunny aspects, in the same soil in my garden, but the BigandEarly always flowers and fruits later than the Summerlong? Both give nice juicy fruits. My plant label for the BigandEarly states early July fruiting, but it always fruits at the end of July. Why? I am in the South of England and good continental type climate. Thinking I may be mistaken I did try another BigandEarly from a different source last year and guess what? Yes same flowering time(pinkish flowers) at the end of May with fruit at the very end of July. On the other hand the Summerlong(white flowers) gives fruit around mid/late July as per plant description. The description for BigandEarly for the UK needs revising as I think Lubera is describing how the plant performed in Switzerland. Your Summerlong is the early type in the UK!Thanks.

 
May 31, 2017

Local Conditions! (John)

You're right about BigandEarly fruiting late July in England and Summerlong is a week or so later. It is all down to your local conditions I'm afraid e.g weather, sun hours etc. I will be honest and say I much prefer the BigandEarly over the other as the plant's flowers attract the bees more, better to look at in the garden, has a greater disease resistance than Summerlong which I find to be a bit prone to root rot in heavier soils which could affect the next season's vigor.



In my humble opinion this Navaho BigandEarly should have the Easy Growing symbol as well. There's nothing much in the garden which will stop this great plant giving a couple of kg of good fruit consistently every year.

May 31, 2017

typo correction (John)

'Summerlong is a week or so earlier.'

Jun 4, 2017

Best Navaho! (Francis)

I will second that. Growing Navaho Summerlong in a large pot, just ended for me in root rot, but Navaho BigandEarly has proved to be adaptable whether growing in a container or just in the garden. It also appears to like any kind of soil(it thrives in heavy clay soil gives pink flowers!) and more vigorous with sturdy stout growth unaffected by fungal disease/root rot/orange rust or virus. I cannot recommend a Blackberry plant more for the UK gardener and it should have the Easy Growing status as well!

Jun 6, 2017

U.K weather! (Lee S)

The answer is quite simple. U.k weather is quite atrocious with its constant raining/not enough sun hours. Not good at all for cultivating most fruiting plants, unless grown in a tunnel or some shelter. Wild thorny blackberries are better for adapting to this or gooseberries which love the rainy weather.

Jun 13, 2017

Vernon W (Vernon)

I've been growing Lubera blackberries lots of years now. BigandEarly is a terrific garden plant. I ripped out all my other blackberries and replaced with this. I see yields of 2kg consistently every summer late July. This plant can survive in any conditions even waterlogged soil or a poorly drained container as it's so adaptable much more so than Navaho Summerlong which though good producer and has better yields loses vigor after time as it is requires richer soils not as heavy. I have to differ with Lubera saying its slightly mildew susceptible- I've never seen it or any disease with this plant!




Note, if you want to see pink flowers in mid May you must plant BigandEarly in very heavy iron ore/clay type soil, otherwise they will just appear white each time. PH of soil affects the flower colours.

Mar 29, 2017

Navaho Cultivar Differences! (Chris)

I will relate my growing experiences of Navaho Bigandearly and Summer long types from the last 5 years! Bigandearly: Produces vigorous stout canes from its base, no root suckering. Prefers very heavy iron ore/clay type soil. Fruiting in this type of soil is typically late July to early Sept after flowering in late May in U.K conditions. Yield is an average of 3 to 5 pounds( around averages of up to 2kg). The plant puts out 3 to 5 good upright canes when established, but two canes to three seems to be optimum for plant health and vitality. Roots establish very quickly. There is a good leaf to cane ratio with no dangers of overcropping. In reality the plant usually puts out no more fruit, if 2 canes or 5 canes are present, due to its nutritional requirements and growth pattern of laterals which are quite short and have a slight tendency to break off, if the fruit load is too heavy! Winter chill requirement to achieve adequate bud break in Spring is around 700 to 800 hours. In a lighter soil the plant achieves flowering and fruiting by a week earlier or more. No diseases were seen in my plantings ever and BigandEarly shows exceptional resistance to orange rust, fungal diseases, and root rot, indeed the plant can be planted even in waterlogged clay soil and still be expected to survive(not recommended to do this in all cases with any plant!) BigandEarly has some minor problem with white druplets which effects any blackberry type. Reason unknown! The large flowers a pretty pink flush before opening fully white can be spoilt by heavy rain causing potential pollination of the berry to grow malformed or not develop. Unfortunately if this occurs in your area 25% of the crop may not develop if flowers are spoilt, thus I recommend to grow this plant in a large tub, so if bad weather comes you can shift the plant under cover somewhere. Summerlong: Much the same as above, but the plant has slightly more erect, stouter canes, roots in younger planting are prone to root rot, roots can sucker but cut them out when seen, as this type of growth is weak and spindly and which can effect the crown health nutritionalwise. Once established minor root rot susceptibility is not a problem in a good moderate to heavier type soil. The yield is exceptionally high and much sweeter than its sister plant, giving double yields and more on a optimum of 2/3 canes or more. The ripening is concentrated mid July onwards as per this site's accurate information. However with BigandEarly the ripening is not concentrated as this site describes due to the plant's much larger berries' ripening time affected by lack of sunshine hours in a colder clime. You will picks dozens at a time with Summerlong but not with Navaho BigandEarly under UK weather conditions. Flowers are a pretty white in mid May to mid July and are not affected by rain or wind. On the whole Navaho Summer long is deserving of its Easytip status, but both plants are excellent for the home gardener. This plant is ideal for both patio tub or in the garden

 
Mar 27, 2017

Big and early in a pot (Mo)

Hi I have purchase a big and early and also a summer long and wondering what size pot I can put them in? Thanks

 
Mar 29, 2017

Pot Size? (chris)

I will answer this for you as you might wait for an answer going off the number of other questions. 30 to 50 litres is enough. I use 50 litre sized containers for blackberries. Change the soil every 3 years unless you replenish it with good nutrition as plant vigor will decrease significantly. Watch out for vine weevils as they love patio pots and much freely on roots of any plant killing them in time. I plant chives/lemon balm, feverfew/ alongside my pot plant(in the same soil) to deter them due to strong smell of aromatic plants and small pebbles over surface to stop weevil egg laying. You will okay with 30 litres.

Feb 17, 2017

Growth rate? (Tony D)

Are these Navaho cultivars blackberries fast growing? And is the original Lubera Navaho exactly the same as the old American type or a newer variation? Looking forward to the answer. Thankyou.

 
Apr 12, 2017

Growth rate! (Michael)

The original Navaho is the most vigorous. The other two have about the same vigor above ground-csne growth,leafing out, but BigandEarly has much faster root establishment than Summerlong type when first planted and is sturdier.

Feb 14, 2017

Berry Size? (Abby)

Hi, How big are the berries in grams of Navaho BigandEarly compared to Summerlong and do they both take a long to ripen under a U.K climate? Thanks

 
Feb 9, 2017

New primocane Navaho cultivars? (Deepak)

My experience with Navaho is sometimes and it is very rare happening that it does exhibit primocane activity and flower on same year new canes instead of 1 year old wood the next year. RHS trials have shown this anomaly. Is it possible in your plant breeding to breed a plant like Navaho BigandEarly or Summerlong to crop with its first year canes and still have a July ripening or is this prospect too difficult to achieve as yet. Thankyou.

 
Feb 10, 2017

Primocane blackberry (Peter )

I think Lubera already does have one of those primocane types, but it is thorny and there is a smaller thornless container type as well sold here online. Maybe what you are looking for?

Feb 15, 2017

New primocane Navaho cultivars? (Sonja Dreher)

Hello,
yes, Peter is right, we do already have a primocane variety, It's name is "Direttissima Montblanc" and it ripens in August, three weeks later than the "Navahos". This variety has thornes, but we also have a small compact growing, primocane Blackberry, it's name is "Little Black Prince". This one grows about 1m-1,5m, very compact and bushy, good for pot culture.
But breeding always goes on, so maybe we will soon have also thornless Primocanes.

kind regards
Your Lubera Team

Nov 29, 2016

Suckering (T. Steel)

Hello Which of the Navaho varieties is likely to produce underground rhizomes/root sucker metres away from the plant crown: Bigandearly or Summerlong? I ask because I will be planting next to my neighbour's garden and I dont want to buy an invasive suckering blackberry. Thanks.

 
Dec 18, 2016

Blackberry info? (Terry Steel)

Got no reply(this Forum is dead?) so bought a reliable nonsuckering(I'm told) thornless blackberry Waldo from Homebase instead to over winter for next year!

Jan 31, 2017

Suckering (A.J)

I have been growing Navaho BigandEarly for 5 years and it has Never suckered or spread from its roots in the border in my garden. Blackberry Waldo is a nice tasting berry plant of course, but heavy rains can cause big pollination problems to its flowers and low fruit set(I had grown it) If you decide to acquire another Blackberry I really do recommend this more modern Lubera Navaho plant which gives a great fruit set of 2kg plus even in heavy rains, wind etc.

Feb 15, 2017

Suckering (Sonja Dreher)

Hello,

no, Terry, this forum is not dead, but I have to find the time in between my daily work, here at Lubera, to answer a lot of emails, and of course a lot of questions here on the homepage, too.

The Navaho-breedings don't tend to make runners. They are easy croppers, very robust and don't have pollination problems, when the weather is not so good in spring.

kind regards
Your Lubera Team

Nov 29, 2016

Suckering (T. Steel)

Hello Which of the Navaho varieties is likely to produce underground rhizomes/root sucker metres away from the plant crown: Bigandearly or Summerlong? I ask because I will be planting next to my neighbour's garden and I dont want to buy an invasive suckering blackberry. Thanks.

 
Oct 2, 2016

Blackberry cultivar true to type? (Wilson Jones)

My question about BigandEarly: Is there any possible variability in the Lubera Navaho BigandEarly strain? I've been growing it for 5 years and it does not behave like its plant description. It starts fruiting at the end of July or early August, not at all like early July as written here. I planted it next to my Navaho Summerlong in the same soil with plenty of sunny days as a test to be sure, Summerlong blackberry fruits mid July every time! Both my Navaho plants are sourced as true to type from a reputable nursery, but BigandEarly is actually much later fruiting everytime and 25% of the crop does not ripen after August end. That said I still enjoy growing it and find its pinkish flowers pleasing to the eye which come in June. With Regards.

 
Oct 2, 2016

Variability. (Rolf Van der b)

Yes, it will be true to type if the plant source is correct. There can be variability in cultivars e.g Blackberry Loch Ness Veronique which is a different flowering form of Loch Ness plant. Two blackberry plants together no good, both will compete for same soil nutrition, it appears the Summerlong is better suited to your garden than BigandEarly plant and better established. You should try a garden tub in a sunny position next year. I had blackberry Natchez everybody saying earliest blackberry in July, but here in Holland- August, with poor quality small berries. I replaced it with a BigandEarly fruit in mid July. Good exchange.

Oct 10, 2016

Navaho Cultivar Differences. (Tomas )

Hi, both blackberries BigandEarly and Summerlong exhibit more or less same vigor, growth pattern, traits when established, but there is a difference in BigandEarly over Summerlong- an advantage really- it establishes much much quicker and thrives in wet soil whereas Summerlong is prone to root rot if conditions are not well drained. A well developed plant of blackberry Summerlong will survive some root rot over a bad winter wet, but a younger planting will not I find in my garden experiences with it as it is too slow growing to establish. BigandEarly is unaffected by this, so I prefer it and it does not sucker from roots and is fairly vigorous, but easier to manage. It is true to type, but needs more nutrition to develop its big berries. Your choice both are good!

Aug 31, 2016

Julie S (jules200@hotma)

I read good things about Navaho blackberries, so I bought Bigandearly and Summerlong approx 5 years back. What I can't understand is they were planted in the same soil, have the same sunny aspect, got at least 8 hours and more of sun every day, yet my Bigandearly always flowers in early June and fruits early August every year with a fruiting season of 8 weeks. Most of the crop never fully develops in Sept and berries are often malformed/small. The Summerlong flowers mid May and fruits mid/end July as its description here on the website and is so reliable fruiting for 5 good weeks. There is nothing early about Bigandearly in my experience or big about its crop. Wondering why is this and what am I doing wrong?Thanks for you time.

 
Sep 11, 2016

Fruiting Issue! (John)

Firstly I would not give up quite yet on your plant. This site's gardening questions section seems unmanned of late due to business etc, so you might be better emailing direct as Lubera is very helpful to its customers.

My old neighbour used to say 'One bad year doesn't make a bad plant!'

Things to correct as backberries can be fussy at times are soil nutrition and sunny location, but you mention the latter, so I would consider heavier feeding spring onwards and ensure the soil is heavier to negate any potential drought conditions. I would plant more insect attractant plants around the blackberry such as sage to increase the pollinators- bees or these odd druplet looking berries can form. My own experience with BigandEarly is the further the northern hemisphere you are can delay flowering by 2/3 weeks or more and berry quality in any blackberry is usually poor September onwards anyway due to lack of heat etc, hence these plants are developed for earlier ripening. Summerlong exhibits this compact season ripening trait wonderfully I might add more so than BigandEarly as its large berries take time to develop and the UK just does not have the ideal conditions that continental Europe has for quicker ripening. Unfortunately the gardener cannot control the weather, but he/she can adapt!

Sep 25, 2016

Fruiting Issue (Rolf Van der B)

These difficulties can be as a result of weather conditions and sun scorching. I had a very bad season one year with BigandEarly when heavy rain damaged flowers, then sun quickening the new flowers to open, only to rain again and ruin the flower buds. Any black fruit forming is also damaged in this way leading to white drupelets and a horrible looking berry. My solution try a planting under cover.

Now I get good crops of 2 kg with BigandEarly under the shelter of a car port. Navaho Summerlong never has these associated flower problems planted in the open to same degree, but can get the white drupelets sometimes on one or two berries after rain showers and sunny intervals.

Aug 31, 2016

Julie S (jules200@hotma)

I read good things about Navaho blackberries, so I bought Bigandearly and Summerlong approx 5 years back. What I can't understand is they were planted in the same soil, have the same sunny aspect, got at least 8 hours and more of sun every day, yet my Bigandearly always flowers in early June and fruits early August every year with a fruiting season of 8 weeks. Most of the crop never fully develops in Sept and berries are often malformed/small. The Summerlong flowers mid May and fruits mid/end July as its description here on the website and is so reliable fruiting for 5 good weeks. There is nothing early about Bigandearly in my experience or big about its crop. Wondering why is this and what am I doing wrong?Thanks for you time.

 
Aug 31, 2016

Julie S (jules200@hotma)

I read good things about Navaho blackberries, so I bought Bigandearly and Summerlong approx 5 years back. What I can't understand is they were planted in the same soil, have the same sunny aspect, got at least 8 hours and more of sun every day, yet my Bigandearly always flowers in early June and fruits early August every year with a fruiting season of 8 weeks. Most of the crop never fully develops in Sept and berries are often malformed/small. The Summerlong flowers mid May and fruits mid/end July as its description here on the website and is so reliable fruiting for 5 good weeks. There is nothing early about Bigandearly in my experience or big about its crop. Wondering why is this and what am I doing wrong?Thanks for you time.

 
Aug 31, 2016

Julie S (jules200@hotma)

I read good things about Navaho blackberries, so I bought Bigandearly and Summerlong approx 5 years back. What I can't understand is they were planted in the same soil, have the same sunny aspect, got at least 8 hours and more of sun every day, yet my Bigandearly always flowers in early June and fruits early August every year with a fruiting season of 8 weeks. Most of the crop never fully develops in Sept and berries are often malformed/small. The Summerlong flowers mid May and fruits mid/end July as its description here on the website and is so reliable fruiting for 5 good weeks. There is nothing early about Bigandearly in my experience or big about its crop. Wondering why is this and what am I doing wrong?Thanks for you time.

 
Jul 23, 2016

Mildew (Peter)

What does this "slightly susceptible to downy mildew.." in the info mean concerning disease effects on Bigandearly and are the other Navaho types affected badly? I thought orange rust was the main worry with Navaho. Thankyou.

 
Aug 27, 2016

Fungal Diseases in Navaho blackberry! (Peter )

I'm not affiliated in any way with with Lubera so I will say what I know in my experiences with growing Navaho Bigandearly and Summerlong blackberry plants. I've never seen any serious diseases in both really. Really wet conditions might trigger off this mildew in Bigandearly if rarely at all. What I have seen in Summerlong type is Kuehneola uredinis, a rust fungus which can form yellow pustules on leaves and cane, but is not to be confused with orange rust(both appear immune to this!) which is systemic and eventually kills the plant host. Orange rust is more seen in large commercial plantations of the original Navaho cultivar. Kuehneola uredinis, only very mildly effects Summerlong's leaves in wet conditions at the end of its cropping season and not all leaves. I only saw this once in 4 years. Didn't stop my Summerlong plant producing a huge 10 kilos of berries this year on 1 cane this year! Warning: Summerlong will sucker freely from its roots many feet away from the crown, Bigandearly does not. Bigandearly is not fussy about soil, thrives in heavy conditions, but it does need at least 8 hours to produce a good crop of a few kilos and is better suited for big garden containers due to its foliar resistance to fungal diseases. This is my information about these 2 plants.

Jun 14, 2016

Amount of canes to keep? (Darren)

I have Bigandearly blackberry, well established plant, this year 12 new canes are growing from the crown. How many should I keep or prune out? I thinking of buying Summerlong too. How big do its berry weigh in grams? Thankyou.

 
Jun 15, 2016

Pruning (Karl J)

I usually prune to 5 or 6 strong growing canes and remove the rest- weaker looking. Having more cane does not necessarily mean more fruit as the blackberry could focus more on leafing out than fruiting. You don't want that.

May 25, 2016

Flowering Time? (Paul D)

Hey there Lubera, my question is I have loads of flowers on an established Bigandearly fruit bush, but when do they open usually, none of the plant's flowers has opened in May as yet as described per video? Every year they open a week into June. I guess you folks in Switzerland get fantastic Spring weather? Now weird thing is my Summerlong plant starting to open on May 15th unlike the main description June, now I see why it was given the Easy Tip label. By the way I asked a question in the Lady Sun gooseberry section about flowering/pollination. Thankyou for your advice.

 
Jun 15, 2016

Flowering (Karl J)

The weather/location play huge factors in this!

Dec 1, 2015

Navaho cane Support (Mo)

Hi some gear advise here thanks to all. I have enough to space for 3 canes in my allotment and I am planning on erecting 2.2m posts either side and running wires across them in anticipation of planting Navaho BigAndEarly. Can anyone advise at what heights would be best for the wires or alternative support system that is suited to this variety. I appreciate it has a upright habit and can be planted on a post. Thanks a lot in advance. Mo

 
Dec 2, 2015

Navaho cane Support (sonja dreher)

Hello,
Navaho BigAndEarly is a more upright growing Blackberry and so it does not make sense to start with the first wires at a hight under 1m.
I would recommend three wires at 1 meter, at 1,5 meters and at 2 meters.
kind regards
Your Lubera Team
Sonja Dreher

Sep 20, 2015

Summer 2015! (John)

I think we can all agree that the British Summer wasn't that great again!! but I got a huge crop of nearly 3.5kg of juicy blackberries from my Bigandearly on 4 canes after following correct pruning procedures. Nearly double the amount of fruit from last year's 2 canes and the plant has put out 5 more strong canes for next year. Most of the berries are loaded in the plant's aerial parts, so good advice is to tip the plant at 5 feet and side branches to 18 inches in late winter/early spring, give it a light fertilizer too(my plant grew to a healthy 7 feet), and then the plant will reward you with tons of berries July onwards with the sun easily ripening the berries!

 
Sep 21, 2015

Summer 2015! (sonja dreher)

Hi John,
thanks again for sharing your experiences with our Bigandearly Blackberries.
It is much appreciated. :-)
kind regards
Sonja

Aug 24, 2015

Nearby blackberries from wild! Problem? (Sandy)

Comments: this plant in the UK is a mid season plant. It is still fruiting now in late August commencing from early August. The plant flowered mid June. We have already picked loads of blackberries( about 2 pounds which is only a third of the actual berries on just two canes and it has put out 4 more for next year) and the berries are huge. Impressive fruit plant! More to come! Question, would nearby wild blackberries cause problems for it, I read this Big and early is highly disease resistant? Bye now.

 
Aug 26, 2015

Nearby blackberries from wild! Problem? (sonja dreher)

Hello,
Good to hear, that the Bigandearly is doing so well in your garden.
The neighborhood with the wild Blackberries will not cause problems.
Hope you enjoy the fruits.
kind regards
Your Lubera Team

Sep 20, 2015

Wild blackberries/virus risk (John)

As Sonja says no problem, the risk is quite small, all you have to worry about is whether vectors like aphids transmitting from a wild blackberry fly to your thornless planting and that could still happen if the wild thorny ones are 200 feet or more away. So I would not worry about it as most blackberries are extremely disease resistant. Happy gardening!

Aug 9, 2015

Yield observation! (Mark)

I find consistently that these upright Navaho blackberries have between 150 to 200 berries on each cane(same with other erect types like Apache or Natchez), so taking an average weight of 5g as normal it is easy to estimate their potential kg yield. Summerlong is nearly double the amount of berries than Bigandearly but its berries are 50% smaller so the weight of final yield is not that much different between the two cultivars. Two to four canes in an established plant after 3 years is about the norm giving 1.5 to 3.0kg in either type of Navaho give or take 0.5kg. Summer long has a wilder blackberry like taste/aroma when fully ripe and Bigandearly is much fruitier/juicier. I would like to know their maximum hardiness below 0 celsius if you would in your experience. As yet they showed no visible cane damage at -26C. Thankyou.

 
Aug 17, 2015

Hardiness (John)

Most blackberries especially Chester can withstand cane damage up to -26 degrees celsius. These temperatures are more likely to occur in places in Scotland. Navaho cultivars is one of the hardiest blackberries out there and may even show little damage at lower temperatures than this. Blackberry Loch Ness has excellent winter hardiness too and is often crossed with other cultivars because of this.

Sep 20, 2015

Cane hardiness (John)

Always nice to hear other gardeners experiences. Your observations are quite correct regarding yield and hardiness so you have your answer, but cane damage can occur at any - temp though. I had no success as yet with my Natchez trial as it has an erratic ripening pattern, not well suited to the UK despite the early fruiting tag much bandied about by its developers. Well done anyway!

Dec 23, 2014

How long do blackberry plants live? (Jack)

How long do these plants actually live before we have to replace them? I saw on the Internet that an original planting of a Doyle's blackberry is 40 years old! cheers.

 
Jan 29, 2015

How long do blackberry plants live? (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

Hello,
Blackberry-plants as such can get quite old. The Problem is, that after 15-20 years the soil gets exhausted and the yield is not so good anymore.
Taking care of the soil with compost and fertilizer, will make the Blackberries last longer.

Kind regards
Your Lubera team

Dec 17, 2014

Raspberry dwarf virus resistance? (Beccy)

We destroyed/burnt out our old blackberry plant, one of which was a Navaho after they were affected by raspberry dwarf virus from a previously virus ridden raspberry patch(burned)infected with mosaic virus by airborne aphids. How resistant are Bigandearly & Summerlong Navaho's to mosaic or raspberry dwarf virus types or calicos virus? One of our blackberries Karakablack is infected with calicos virus but as far as I know only discolours leaves streaky yellow in blackberries and plant can live with symptoms, but eventually yield reduces or berries crumble. Should we rip that out/burn that too? Thankyou for any advice.

 
Jan 28, 2015

Plants viruses & Longevity (John )

You mean Calico virus, though not a serious diseases it does in time reduce yield and plant leavescan go funny yellow colours with redness sometimes. People usually ignore it. However raspberry dwarf virus can hit any plant. once it has struck, destroy that planting site plus burn the plant away from other healthy plants and don't replant there for at least 8 years.

##Blackberries can live for 15 to 20 years more if the soil is replenished seasonally.

Jan 29, 2015

Raspberry dwarf virus resistance (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

Thanks to John, couldn't have explained it any better :-)

Kind regards
your lubera team

Feb 4, 2015

dwarf virus (John)

Re: You are welcome Sonja!

I should add lots of people actually like the bizarre patterned leaf colour of plants infected with calico virus.Regarding this or dwarf virus any plant can exhibit yellow streaks and it could just be a mineral deficiency in the soil. Only a lab test will determine this. I would not expect nor have seen such diseases in any of Lubera's healthy Navaho blackberry plants.

Dec 5, 2014

Plant Description! (Phil)

I've read with interest all informations concerning blackberry Bigandearly and is it fair to say that most of its original attributes depend on location as in its very July ripening which would have depended on its country of origin Switzerland or Germany?

 
Dec 17, 2014

Plant Description! (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

Hello,
no, that is not correct. It is only the ripening-time that can vary a little bit, all other attributes of the plant are not Location-bound.
I think, I do not need to mention, that growth and health of a plant are closely related to enviromental features like pH value, temperature, humidity and soil nutrient values.
If this is ok, the Blackberries will thrive, no matter if in Switzerland or in Britain.

Kind regards
Your Lubera Team

Nov 28, 2014

Early Ripening time (Dan)

I bought a Bigandearly a few years ago off one of Lubera's sister suppliers to replace an old and much diseased original Navaho and am very pleased with its performance in my garden, not understating impressed. I would like to ask can I do anything to make Bigandearly ripen a bit earlier in July? Its planted in a very sunny position in heavy soil, gives pink flowers end of May and its very large fruit is ready to eat near late July, with its picking season pleasingly lasting up until mid September due to our erratic UK summers no doubt!

 
Dec 2, 2014

Bigandearly (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

Hello,
no, sorry the ripening-time depends on the climate, the temperatures you have durin sprin/summer. If it is a goog year with warm average temperatures it can ripen a bit earlier.
Apart from this, there are no messures, to make it ripe quicker.

Kind regards
Your Lubera Team

Nov 21, 2014

How long to maximum fruit yield? (William)

Two questions, how long does it take for Bigandearly to give its maximum fruit yield and is this blackberry more healthy/vigorous or quicker to establish than your Summerlong cultivar or Navaho original? In terms of the best alrounder. Thankyou.

 
Nov 25, 2014

Bigandearly fruit yield (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

Hello,
it does not take very long, until Bigandearly gives it's Maximum fruit yield.
in the second year until you planted it you will have lots of nice and tasty Blackberries.
In my opinion Bigandearly is the best sort of the 'Navahos', concerning, vigorousity and resistance to the most known illnesses. The Feedback from our customers says the same.

kinbd regards
Your Lubera team

Nov 8, 2014

Navaho x Loch Ness (Jane Baxter)

My question is after viewing some nice info packed videos on Navaho here we learned from Markus of the crossing of good quality varieties like Loch Ness to make lubera's new Navaho strains so were there any other types included in plants to make the differences between Bigandearly and Summerlong because they vary in flowering, fruiting seasons etc? Thankyou

 
Nov 12, 2014

types (John)

Yeah, that would be interesting to know for the amateur gardener. I checked out luberas video too and the guy just mentions the good eating variety Lochness. I guess both types have more or less of this cultivar in them to give differences.

Nov 19, 2014

Navaho x Loch Ness (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

Hello
It has been quite a while since we have crossed the Navahos.
I does not necessarily have to be, that Bigandearly and Summerlong come from a different strain. If you make a large number of crossings to produce lots of seedlings you will mostly find something interesting and plants that vary in growth, fruiting season and taste.

kind regards
Your Lubera Team

Nov 19, 2014

Navaho crosses (Jane Baxter)

Thanks to you both for your answers. Blackberry breeding must be very interesting!

Nov 30, 2014

Crossing blackberries (Kurt)

What a nice forum to learn about fruit plants! Kudos to Lubera for providing a place for gardeners' own experiences. I commercially once grew blackberry Chester, largely superceded now but still an important commercial favourite. Last main plant I grew was Lochness, but a few problems exist with Lochness notably lack of vigor and its being prone to dieback.

I now live in Turkey so nice to see an earlier question originating from this sunny land. My son gave me both Lubera the Navaho clones Bigandearly & Summerlong as birthday presents, so as we say 'I will give you my ten penny's worth on these great plants.' Summerlong follows traits of Lochness regarding plant vigor and yield ability, but having low to moderate vigor, slower to establish and cropping is higher due to a protracted ripening season. That said from my own observations Bigandearly is not that far behind in terms of yield and has given us 3kg and follows the trait of blackberry Lochness' being big sized and a heavy cropper! Some fruit weighing 10g!

If Bigandearly likes your garden environment it is not affected by drought conditions that much, once its roots are established and is a much superior clone of Navaho as it exhibits more of its traits than Summerlong type does. It seems to shake off every fungal or potential plant virus pests can often bring in the garden. Our Anatolian winters can be severe, minus 30 Celsius is not uncommon some nights in January, with both Navaho clones enduring this temperature without sweat excusing the pun, but juxtaposed likes a regular drink of water during extremely hot balmy Turkish summer days when it is very dry. Two super plants!

Sep 16, 2014

Disease Resistance (Sally)

My brother had the original Navaho in his garden some years back, but had to rip it out because of orange rust. It used to have lovely pinkish flowers with medium sized sweet berries in late August. My question is about Bigandearly: Is this plant a significant improvement on the original Navaho with regards to disease resistance, appearance of flowers, cropping ability/fruit quality or size? Thanks

 
Sep 17, 2014

Disease Resistance (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

Hello,

yes, Bigandearly is absolutely an improvement.

All customer reports are positive and tell from very healthy and thriving plants with lots of (1,5-2kg) big and juicy berries.

The blossoms show at end of May.

This of course depends also on the enviromental influences, but if the Blackberry is pleased with the surroundings you will be pleased by the result.

Kind regards
Sonja

Sep 18, 2014

Bigandearly characteristics! (Tim)

In answer yes to all.

I had 4 pounds of berries last year and looks like I will easily surpass that amount this year. In a medium light soil(in Great Britain) this plant usually flowers in mid/late May and should produce ripened fruit from mid July up to even the start of September in the UK. In Europe this will be a lot earlier hence the name. Bigandearly hates a light soil and will not thrive in it.

The season is ending much earlier if you are in the South England as it would have flowered earlier in May, because of favorable, warmer conditions and in a a hotter climate its season could start/ finish July/August.

In a heavy soil it will flower late May and fruit mid/late July with the cropping possibly extending to mid/late September, if you are further North(my neck of the woods in Carlisle). Down South the season is much earlier in all respects, as my friends have confirmed.

Zero disease. All the reports are pretty good. Never had any problems with it or had to spray a lot. The older heritage Navaho blackberry has been greatly improved. In a sunny open position aphids do not bother it much, but in semi shade positions it could be a problem as with all leafy plants. Fruit is very tasty, I've had big fruit weighing up to 8g. Mostly the fruit averages 6g or more. Happy gardening!

Aug 15, 2014

Hot climate suitability. (Mehmet)

Is this plant okay to grow for hot places such as Turkey?

 
Aug 15, 2014

Bigandearly (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

hot temperatures as such is not the problem for the Bigandearly-Blackberry.
The ground should not be too dry, that is important, to compensate the high
Evaporation.

Aug 6, 2014

Navaho plants: Cropping in first year??? (Jim)

Nice site & good solid info from growers themselves & plant breeders. I was really lucky to buy Bigandearly out of a national newspaper special gardening offer with the Lubera early thornless gooseberry Lady Sun several years ago. Both plants great croppers without nasty thorns. I replaced all my blackberries with this one because it is upright. IMHO Navaho Bigandearly is the best gardening variety out there. Can Bigandearly realistically be bettered like cropping in its first year of planting(still remaining early season!) & is that a real possibility in the near future for Lubera breeders? I'd definitely buy that one! Keep up the valuable work Lubera. Thanking you.

 
Aug 8, 2014

Primocane breeding (Ralf Schmidt)

Hi, there's a video somewhere on this site about this. Might help u.

Aug 4, 2014

Crop Yield per Plant (Simon)

I watched all the nice videos on the blackberry Navaho -more please. I'm growing both the Bigandearly & Summerlong types. Markus says in his older(comparison video of the two plants)that Summerlong gives double the crop of Bigandearly yet in the last video in his neighbour's garden he says that Bigandearly) will give you a huge crop in July. Just how many pounds/kilos does Markus mean per Bigandearly plant? i like Bigandearly much better as it it much more vigorous than Summerlong and establishes itself quicker. Super plant! Thanks for your time Lubera.

 
Aug 5, 2014

Bigandearly (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

It depends a lot on how good the place is, you've chosen for your plant, how vigorouse it is and how much fruit it will carry.
If Bigandearly has a good place and enough nutrition and water it can carry up to 1kg - 1,5kg of fruit.

Aug 5, 2014

Crop Yield Per Plant. (John)

I concur. I live near Scotland, and this Lubera Bigandearly has really turned out to be one of my favourite garden plants. Ours flowers late May & crops around mid/late July, again further South early July will be the norm for ripening. it is a delight to see and I consider it both a valuable ornamental as well as a fruit plant. My friend grows the Summerlong variety, but it is not as vigorous as Bigandearly he says though he gets a bigger crop around 30% more berries than me! To beat him I planted 2 Bigandearlys!!

My observations on it:
1.Chill Hour requirement not a problem 700-800 will be more than enough for this plant in the U.K to give a good Summer crop.
2.Yield: I have had 3 pounds off one established plant. I'd imagine with correct conditions, pruning, cane tipping, lateral management etc up to 5pounds(2.5kg) is not impossible to achieve.
3.Disease resistance: extremely high. My neighbour had an orange rust infested rose only feet away from my Bigandearly and it was totally unaffected, despite the Navaho family being highly susceptiple to orange rust disease in trials in America.
4White Druplets. Yes I have seen them. Many theories on this but most logical for me was not enough iron in the soil. Use an iron enriched to enrich a depleted soil. I never saw it again!
5.Pests: Spray it, but more and more aphids are becoming resistant to these 'weaker' sprays(the good stuff is banned in the EEC) so consider using organic treatments or traditional soapy water method to drown them. if a problem again it depends on location or which plants are near, just make sure you keep on top of them.

Aug 6, 2014

Bigandearly (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

Congratulations John,
that is really a good result, you seem to have, like we say in Germany, "a hand for it".
It is always interesting to hear other gardeners experiences.

Jul 30, 2014

white druplets (Sarah )

Why has some of our Bigandearly blackberry fruit have white druplets on some of the berries? Horrible looking things! Googled it and it is quite common with blackberry Apache as well.

 
Jul 18, 2014

Fruting season (Geoff)

We bought a couple of Bigandearlys from Suttons a few years back. Nice plants. One unfortunately died due to something, but the remainder is thriving well in very heavy soil and full sun. It fruits every year(ripens)late July. Is this true to its type or could the plant we bought be a variation of Bigandearly as I thought it fruited very early? Sometimes the odd flower has 6 petals instead of regular 5. Ours seems to follow the original Navaho's ripening time(we are in UK near the Scottish border), but it can't be as it produced lovely pink flowers late May as per the description for Bigandearly My guess is soil type could be affecting it. What do you guys think?Thankyou.

 
Jul 21, 2014

Fruit Season (Bob)

Strange site this, is it active? Soil or underwatering or funnily it can be over watering a plant. That or very remote chance they sent the wrong plant to you. It happens you know. I grow Navaho original by the way and ph of soil can affect berry taste. its fruiting season is very late July. Good luck!

Jul 21, 2014

Season (Bob)

Strange site this, is it active? Soil or underwatering or funnily it can be over watering a plant. That or very remote chance they sent the wrong plant to you. It happens you know. I grow Navaho original by the way and ph of soil can affect berry taste. its fruiting season is very late July. Good luck!

Jul 15, 2014

winter chill hour requirement! (Rich Lowe)

I read the original blackberry Navaho is high chill 850 hours or so. Never really paid much attention to this chill thing until it was pointed out to me by a friend as a factor of low yields in areas which get substantially more sunshine hours than chill ones. Did Lubera test chill hours of Navaho Bigandearly & Summerlong for lower chill areas of Europe/do they have same chill requirements as Navaho original etc? Thanks.

 
Jul 16, 2014

Chill Hours (John )

I'd hazard a guess at anywhere between 500-800, but this is not an exact science, all depends on which chill model(under 7celsius or 3 etc) one uses & no one really knows when a plant starts to accrue them i.e after a big freeze etc.
Navaho original has a high chill inception but the cultivars here have been crossed with ones to allow an earlier fruiting season, so it might lower their need. Only Lubera can really tell you better, but their site is still in beta stage and a bit dormant. Hope that helps.

Jul 16, 2014

chill hours (Your Lubera Team - Sonja Hendrischke)

Hi,
Lubera has not tested the blackberries in connection with chill hours, because in our middleeuropean climate there are no problems at all to grow them.
We have them growing in Switzerland in Northern Germany and some more european countries and there growing and harvesting well. Maybe in a very deep valley, where the sun shows up only a few hours, you would not get normal yields, but these are extreme situations.
The Navaho® is really a robust plant and thrives very well in most gardens.

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